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Fujiwaranoteika at 15:50, 1 June 2026

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	# It's spring, so despite snow still falling on Yoshino there must be mist rising somewhere even though I don't see it.		# It's spring, so despite snow still falling on Yoshino there must be mist rising somewhere even though I don't see it.

	~~Sogi}}~~ says that the snow obscuring the peaks suggests ~~mist~~ to the poet since it's spring. ~~{{Nativist\|~~Norinaga}} also says the poet does not see ~~mist~~, and ~~{{Nativist\|~~Takanao}} agrees. ~~The {{Nativist\|~~''Seigi''}} is a chief proponent of the other view, that the poet is looking at a ~~misty~~ sky and bemoaning its rarity, since it is spring. Modern commentators generally take the view that the ~~mist~~ is not actually there, partially based on the position of the poem in the anthology. Takeoka provides another possible explanation: the original unknown poet intended the ~~mist~~ to be actually there, but the compilers read it as not there ~~bsaed~~ on their placement. Finally, Katagiri looks with suspicion on all of this debate -- so many of the poems in the KKS are screen poems or poetry competitions, so what meaning does "actual" have? His reading is that a person in snowy Yoshino village is looking at the snow and thinking about how ~~mist~~ must be rising in the capital		Sōgi says that the snow obscuring the peaks suggests haze to the poet since it's spring. Norinaga also says the poet does not see haze, and Takanao agrees. Kagawa (''Seigi'') is a chief proponent of the other view, that the poet is looking at a hazy sky and bemoaning its rarity, since it is spring. Modern commentators generally take the view that the haze is not actually there, partially based on the position of the poem in the anthology. Takeoka provides another possible explanation: the original unknown poet intended the haze to be actually there, but the compilers read it as not there based on their placement. Finally, Katagiri looks with suspicion on all of this debate -- so many of the poems in the KKS are screen poems or poetry competitions, so what meaning does "actual" have? His reading is that a person in snowy Yoshino village is looking at the snow and thinking about how haze must be rising in the capital.

	~~Many modern commentators read this poem as composed by someone in Yoshino, rather than someone in the capital looking at Yoshino from afar~~.



	Keichū was the first to note a similarity between this poem and [[MYS 823]]:		Keichū was the first to note a similarity between this poem and [[MYS 823]]:

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	~~梅の花ちらくはいづくしかすがにこの城の山に雪は降りつつ~~		梅の花散らくはいづくしかすがにこの<ruby>城<rt>き</rt></ruby>の山に雪は降りつつ

	Where are the plums scattering? ~~On this~~ Mount ~~Shiro[?]~~ snow keeps falling.}}		Where are the plums scattering? Here on Mount Ki snow keeps falling.}}

	Takeoka contrasts the "artful construction" of the MY poem with the more direct and relaxed feeling of the KKS poem.		Takeoka contrasts the "artful construction" of the MYS poem with the more direct and relaxed feeling of the KKS poem.

	[[KKS 2 \| Previous poem]] \| [[KKS 4\|Next poem]]		[[KKS 2 \| Previous poem]] \| [[KKS 4\|Next poem]]

Fujiwaranoteika: /* Analysis */

2026-06-01T15:43:11Z

Analysis

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	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==

	This poem~~, in contrast to the previous one, is simple and direct. It~~ picks up on the winter imagery of the ice in the previous poem and brings in the snow on Yoshino Mountain. The poem also uses a technique that will recur in a number of the following poems -- the mention of a particular spring symbol (haze, in this case) even though it is not actually present to the poet.		This poem picks up on the winter imagery of the ice in the previous poem and brings in the snow on Yoshino Mountain. The poem also uses a technique that will recur in a number of the following poems -- the mention of a particular spring symbol (haze, in this case) even though it is not actually present to the poet. McCullough says that this is introducing a new topic, "lingering traces of winter in the new year," and that it shows the tendency for the compilers to place anonymous poems before those by named poets in a particular grouping.

	~~{{Edo\|~~Mabuchi}} noted the simplicity and directness of this poem in contrast to the intricate composition of poem 2. This was echoed by ~~{{Modern\|~~Kaneko}} who contrasted the lack of poetic technique with the strong composition, carrying echoes of Nara-period poetry. McCullough also picks up on the contrast between the "artful" poem 2 and the "simple, songlike" poem 3. Cranston praises the "pleasant" sound of the poem's repetition and multiple "y" sounds.		Mabuchi noted the simplicity and directness of this poem in contrast to the intricate composition of poem 2. This was echoed by Kaneko(1927) who contrasted the lack of poetic technique with the strong composition, carrying echoes of Nara-period poetry. McCullough also picks up on the contrast between the "artful" poem 2 and the "simple, songlike" poem 3. Cranston praises the "pleasant" sound of the poem's repetition and multiple "y" sounds.

	The major question of interpretation in this poem is whether the mist is real or not. That is, the poem can be read in two ways:		The major question of interpretation in this poem is whether the mist is real or not. That is, the poem can be read in two ways:
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	# It's spring, so despite snow still falling on Yoshino there must be mist rising somewhere even though I don't see it.		# It's spring, so despite snow still falling on Yoshino there must be mist rising somewhere even though I don't see it.

	~~McCullough~~ says that ~~this~~ is ~~introducing~~ a ~~new topic~~, ~~"lingering traces~~ of ~~winter~~ in the ~~new year~~," ~~and~~ that ~~it shows~~ the ~~tendency for~~ the ~~compilers to place anonymous poems before those~~ by ~~named poets~~ in ~~a particular grouping~~.		Sogi}} says that the snow obscuring the peaks suggests mist to the poet since it's spring. {{Nativist\|Norinaga}} also says the poet does not see mist, and {{Nativist\|Takanao}} agrees. The {{Nativist\|''Seigi''}} is a chief proponent of the other view, that the poet is looking at a misty sky and bemoaning its rarity, since it is spring. Modern commentators generally take the view that the mist is not actually there, partially based on the position of the poem in the anthology. Takeoka provides another possible explanation: the original unknown poet intended the mist to be actually there, but the compilers read it as not there bsaed on their placement. Finally, Katagiri looks with suspicion on all of this debate -- so many of the poems in the KKS are screen poems or poetry competitions, so what meaning does "actual" have? His reading is that a person in snowy Yoshino village is looking at the snow and thinking about how mist must be rising in the capital

			Many modern commentators read this poem as composed by someone in Yoshino, rather than someone in the capital looking at Yoshino from afar.



	Keichū was the first to note a similarity between this poem and [[MYS 823]]:		Keichū was the first to note a similarity between this poem and [[MYS 823]]:

Fujiwaranoteika: /* Analysis */

2026-06-01T15:35:54Z

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	Keichū was the first to note a similarity between this poem and [[MYS 823]]:		Keichū was the first to note a similarity between this poem and [[MYS 823]]:

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	梅の花ちらくはいづくしかすがにこの城の山に雪は降りつつ		梅の花ちらくはいづくしかすがにこの城の山に雪は降りつつ

Fujiwaranoteika: /* Analysis */

2026-06-01T15:35:43Z

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	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==

			This poem, in contrast to the previous one, is simple and direct. It picks up on the winter imagery of the ice in the previous poem and brings in the snow on Yoshino Mountain. The poem also uses a technique that will recur in a number of the following poems -- the mention of a particular spring symbol (haze, in this case) even though it is not actually present to the poet.

			{{Edo\|Mabuchi}} noted the simplicity and directness of this poem in contrast to the intricate composition of poem 2. This was echoed by {{Modern\|Kaneko}} who contrasted the lack of poetic technique with the strong composition, carrying echoes of Nara-period poetry. McCullough also picks up on the contrast between the "artful" poem 2 and the "simple, songlike" poem 3. Cranston praises the "pleasant" sound of the poem's repetition and multiple "y" sounds.

			The major question of interpretation in this poem is whether the mist is real or not. That is, the poem can be read in two ways:

			# Where can this mist I see be rising from, since there's still snow on Yoshino?
			# It's spring, so despite snow still falling on Yoshino there must be mist rising somewhere even though I don't see it.

			McCullough says that this is introducing a new topic, "lingering traces of winter in the new year," and that it shows the tendency for the compilers to place anonymous poems before those by named poets in a particular grouping.

			Keichū was the first to note a similarity between this poem and [[MYS 823]]:

			{{Quote
			梅の花ちらくはいづくしかすがにこの城の山に雪は降りつつ

			Where are the plums scattering? On this Mount Shiro[?] snow keeps falling.}}

			Takeoka contrasts the "artful construction" of the MY poem with the more direct and relaxed feeling of the KKS poem.

	[[KKS 2 \| Previous poem]] \| [[KKS 4\|Next poem]]		[[KKS 2 \| Previous poem]] \| [[KKS 4\|Next poem]]

Fujiwaranoteika at 15:30, 1 June 2026

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	== Notes ==		== Notes ==

			;Yoshino Mountain, on holy Yoshino
			:The repetition of the name seems to be both for praise of the "holy" mountain as well as poetic rhythm. The mountain is often associated with snow in poetry.

	Other sources:		Other sources:

Fujiwaranoteika: /* Text */

2026-06-01T15:13:51Z

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	~~春霞たてるやいづこみよしのゝ吉野の山に雪はふりつゝ~~		春霞たてるやいづこ　みよしのの吉野の山に雪はふりつつ

	{{PoemPair		{{PoemPair

Fujiwaranoteika: Created page with " Previous poem | Next poem == Text == 題しらず Topic unknown よみ人しらず Poet unknown 春霞たてるやいづこみよしのゝ吉野の山に雪はふりつゝ {{PoemPair |orig= harukasumi tate-ru ya izuko miyoshino no yoshino no yama ni yuki wa furi-tsutsu |trans= The spring haze Where is it rising? Yoshino Mountain, On holy Yoshino, The snow keeps falling down. }} == Notes == Other sources: *..."

2026-06-01T15:13:36Z

Created page with " Previous poem | Next poem == Text == 題しらず Topic unknown よみ人しらず Poet unknown 春霞たてるやいづこみよしのゝ吉野の山に雪はふりつゝ {{PoemPair |orig= <poem> harukasumi tate-ru ya izuko miyoshino no yoshino no yama ni yuki wa furi-tsutsu </poem> |trans= <poem> The spring haze Where is it rising? Yoshino Mountain, On holy Yoshino, The snow keeps falling down. </poem> }} == Notes == Other sources: *..."

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== Text ==

題しらず

Topic unknown

よみ人しらず

Poet unknown

春霞たてるやいづこみよしのゝ吉野の山に雪はふりつゝ

{{PoemPair
|orig=
<poem>
harukasumi
tate-ru ya izuko
miyoshino no
yoshino no yama ni
yuki wa furi-tsutsu
</poem>

|trans=
<poem>
The spring haze
Where is it rising?
Yoshino Mountain,
On holy Yoshino,
The snow keeps falling down.
</poem>
}}

== Notes ==

Other sources:

* ''[[Shinsen waka]]'' | ''[[Wakan rōeishū]]''
* ''[[Korai fūteishō]]'' | ''[[Teika hachidaishō]]''

== Analysis ==

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[[Category:Spring]]
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